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	<title>Comments on: Kookaburra sits in the courtroom</title>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.lawfont.com/2009/07/31/kookaburra-sits-in-the-courtroom/comment-page-1/#comment-56364</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judge finds EMI guilty of copyright infringement:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/music/articles/2010/02/04/1265151932588.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge finds EMI guilty of copyright infringement:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/music/articles/2010/02/04/1265151932588.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/music/articles/2010/02/04/1265151932588.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ray Girvan</title>
		<link>http://www.lawfont.com/2009/07/31/kookaburra-sits-in-the-courtroom/comment-page-1/#comment-56142</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Girvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops - sorry, the spacing was supposed to line up. Anyhow, the equivalent MP3: &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.segalbooks.com/kookaburracompare.mp3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops &#8211; sorry, the spacing was supposed to line up. Anyhow, the equivalent MP3: <a HREF="http://www.segalbooks.com/kookaburracompare.mp3" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Girvan</title>
		<link>http://www.lawfont.com/2009/07/31/kookaburra-sits-in-the-courtroom/comment-page-1/#comment-56141</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Girvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;if the song’s been around for 20 years, what does that say about ‘instant’ recognition…?&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s an interesting one, in the sense that it seems hidden in plain sight. I&#039;ve known the song that long, and never noticed it. The melody is faithfully quoted, but it&#039;s strongly disguised by arranging it in the relative minor. &quot;Kookaburra&quot; is conventionally written in C major, with the first line and chord backing so:

G-G-G-G A A-A G E G E
C.......F.....C......

The &quot;Down Under&quot; quote does this:

G-G-G-G A A-A G E G E
Amin..........F...G..

Same melody, but remarkably different effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>if the song’s been around for 20 years, what does that say about ‘instant’ recognition…?</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting one, in the sense that it seems hidden in plain sight. I&#8217;ve known the song that long, and never noticed it. The melody is faithfully quoted, but it&#8217;s strongly disguised by arranging it in the relative minor. &#8220;Kookaburra&#8221; is conventionally written in C major, with the first line and chord backing so:</p>
<p>G-G-G-G A A-A G E G E<br />
C&#8230;&#8230;.F&#8230;..C&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>The &#8220;Down Under&#8221; quote does this:</p>
<p>G-G-G-G A A-A G E G E<br />
Amin&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.F&#8230;G..</p>
<p>Same melody, but remarkably different effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that cropped version Ray. I suspect you could sing some of the children&#039;s song to that particular part of the riff. But Ben&#039;s point about the delay raises quite an interesting issue when it comes to the cases on &#039;substantial part&#039;, doesn&#039;t it?

Old cases like the Colonel Bogey march case (Francis Day &amp; Hunter) talked about the fact that a substantial part was taken in part on the basis that anyone seeing the film would instantly recognise the tune. Now, if the song&#039;s been around for 20 years, what does that say about &#039;instant&#039; recognition...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that cropped version Ray. I suspect you could sing some of the children&#8217;s song to that particular part of the riff. But Ben&#8217;s point about the delay raises quite an interesting issue when it comes to the cases on &#8216;substantial part&#8217;, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>Old cases like the Colonel Bogey march case (Francis Day &amp; Hunter) talked about the fact that a substantial part was taken in part on the basis that anyone seeing the film would instantly recognise the tune. Now, if the song&#8217;s been around for 20 years, what does that say about &#8216;instant&#8217; recognition&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Girvan</title>
		<link>http://www.lawfont.com/2009/07/31/kookaburra-sits-in-the-courtroom/comment-page-1/#comment-56139</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Girvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 10:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I can’t hear much similarity.&lt;/i&gt;

Not surprising; they&#039;ve started in the wrong place, and the children sing it in a different key. I made an MP3 cropped to remove the framing riffs: &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.segalbooks.com/kookaburracropped.mp3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I can’t hear much similarity.</i></p>
<p>Not surprising; they&#8217;ve started in the wrong place, and the children sing it in a different key. I made an MP3 cropped to remove the framing riffs: <a HREF="http://www.segalbooks.com/kookaburracropped.mp3" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This news report plays both songs together at 0.45.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyB2l5wqLE   

I can&#039;t hear much similarity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This news report plays both songs together at 0.45.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyB2l5wqLE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyB2l5wqLE</a>   </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t hear much similarity.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Girvan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Girvan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 11:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LG: &lt;i&gt;it reproduces just 3 or 4 notes of the song&lt;/i&gt;

Rather more than that; it quotes &lt;i&gt;first line ... short riff ... second line&lt;/i&gt; from Kookaburra, twice.  It&#039;s at 0:53 and 1:55 in the YouTube video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNT7uZf7lew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LG: <i>it reproduces just 3 or 4 notes of the song</i></p>
<p>Rather more than that; it quotes <i>first line &#8230; short riff &#8230; second line</i> from Kookaburra, twice.  It&#8217;s at 0:53 and 1:55 in the YouTube video here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNT7uZf7lew" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNT7uZf7lew</a></p>
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		<title>By: MP</title>
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		<dc:creator>MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 08:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, are you implying that it is likely that some sort of laches argument will be raised should infringement be established?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, are you implying that it is likely that some sort of laches argument will be raised should infringement be established?</p>
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		<title>By: LG</title>
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		<dc:creator>LG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 05:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been following this one particularly closely, but I at least know the Men at Work song, and aren&#039;t the plaintiffs going to have a hard time with demonstrating that the riff constitutes a substantial part of the original work? From memory, it reproduces just 3 or 4 notes of the song, and the intro is somewhat altered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been following this one particularly closely, but I at least know the Men at Work song, and aren&#8217;t the plaintiffs going to have a hard time with demonstrating that the riff constitutes a substantial part of the original work? From memory, it reproduces just 3 or 4 notes of the song, and the intro is somewhat altered.</p>
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